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30-01-2004, 08:47 PM
I'm thinking about a redo of my room this year with new sockets etc, and I've been thinking about chasing out and running cabling for a future projector.
Now I've identified some sockets on this thread (http://www.avtalk.co.uk/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=4702&start=0&rid=155&SQ=1075495 224), thanks LANKY76!
What about the cable itself? I came across these (http://www.hificables.co.uk/acatalog/Home_Cinema_Installation.html).
My key questions are: are these cables any good, and could an amateur install them? Frankly they look a bit scary for someone who's not wielded a soldering iron since school. :(
03-02-2004, 01:03 PM
03-02-2004, 08:26 PM
They will certainly do the job, as for how easy, that depends how comfortable you are with wiring. If you can manage a telephone extension, you could manage these easy peasy. :nod:
27-02-2004, 08:21 AM
Depends on how good you want it to be mate.
When i install sockets for customers we make up the plates in whatever finish you are having in your room (i.e. customer supplies us blanks). We then manufacture them on a per customer basis. For audfio we use very high quality isolated phonons (same as Meridian use on their kit) 4mm sockets like in your pic or binding posts. And for Video we always recommend the use of crimp or solder BNC's in the interest of keeping the impedance the same.
As for running the cable in-wall i would go for Belden cable 1st, if this is too bulky (often is by the time you have multiple runs) then go for the miniature multi-core Van Damme.
Hope this helps.
27-02-2004, 08:36 AM
Thanks mate! Project is on the back burner for now due to new amp/dvd upgrade but I'll keep your advice on file :thumbup: .
02-03-2004, 06:58 PM
I agree Belden 7710A is the best for component but man is it thick but worth it. canare plugs (if the connectors are RCA phono type)are a must as they are the only crimp 75 ohm phono plugs i have found,plus they are know as the best for video.you NEED the right crimp tools though and these are expensive .
02-03-2004, 07:24 PM
7710 is just 1694 in a bundle colour coded, no difference. 1505a is also seriously great cable. If some tells you they can see the difference....... :twisted: it is thinner and more flexible as well. Comes in a lovely shade of grey.
Canare are not the only crimp or 75 ohm plugs but they are the best IMHO
Belden every time (or Canare) if you can do it
02-03-2004, 10:39 PM
Hi nic ,
Im interested in what other 75 ohm rca crimp plugs you know of?
Canare supplies can get thin on the ground at times.
of course your right 7710A is just three 1694 in a jacket so they are more flexible .but it saves you on cable ties if you want a neat job.also when you pull cables in restricted areas if youve pre cable tied three 1694 the ties can snag (ive been fishing cables for many years)plus idealy you want all the cables the same length the 7710A makes this easier and each part is colour coded.This in my opinion makes it easier to install unless you are going in really tight corners because of the lack of flexibility.
03-03-2004, 11:16 AM
I can supply details of the other crimp but to be honest I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole, about one third failed!!
I am interested in the new WBT but my experience of Eichmann has been 'mixed' (all 75 ohm stuff)
Gordon / Elliot also saw these and are sticking with Canare. Wise move.
Your comments on the 7710 are smack on and is the reason I use it but in wall or similar I think I would use 1694 / 1505 but make sure ALL the lengths are identical
05-03-2004, 11:17 AM
Deckard I would be careful in implementing cable plug in sockets.
Just remember that the more breaks in the speaker cable, the worse the sound quality.
May I humbly suggest that you use plastic trunking that you bury in the wall - similar to the kind that they use to mount electric cables directly on the wall. The kind with the circular join boxes. The trunking is cylindrical.
This way you can hide the speaker cable in the wall whilst the plastering is being done and if you even wish to change the speaker cable, you can always pull through a new one.
The circular join box has a thin front fascia which has two brass screws which you would obviously remove after the plastering is done and feed the speaker cable directly into your speakers without any signal loss.
Oh, meant to say, don't skimp on the speaker cable. You should spend good money on this. I started life with cheap OFC free stuff and yes it sounded crap. Having had three speaker cable upgrades since, I now know you need to seriously think carefully about this.
May I recommend that you audition cables with a Hi Fi dealer. Make an appointment to listen to different mid range and high end cables. Take a known peice of music with you. Even take your CD/DVD player and a couple of DVDs too.
Buy what your ears tell you :nod: (and what the bank manager says you can afford of course) ;)~;-)~:wink:
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